Ok, Someone Give Me The Low Down...

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I've been watching EPONA Horse Rescue in NE for quite some time now....by her rantings on ABR over the years she definitely hits nutter status in my book.

But here lately she's been claiming she has been receiving threatening emails and phone calls from the FOB's. I do not agree with anyone who sees the need to do that! They are scum!

But she does it in a way that makes it seem unbelievable and like it gives her an excuse not to answer questions and be open. I personally think it's BS and it's all in her mind to try to gather sympathy, she will never give anyone proof and hasn't said anything about contacting the authorities....

She's admitted on ABR to having hoarding tendencies and she just got her first horse about 5 years ago then later decided to become the all important rescue...the numbers quickly increased to over 70 at one time. She uses big words that she has no idea what they mean to try to impress people. There is always some kind of big secret only she knows about.

It's quite ridiculous really. It appears just about everyone is onto her though because the "river of funds" has damn near went dry. The only people you see on her threads anymore are either calling her out or the regular nutters who support anything and everything.

So what's your take on EPONA? I'd love for some proof to show up in my inbox that this woman is getting either fairly or unfairly accused of the things she posts about herself.

Oh, and a little P.S. I am well aware of the nastygrams Lin/EPONA sends out anytime someone brings up her name unless it's to fart rainbows...so before Lin or any of her little minions sends me the standard "I'm gonna sue you for slander!" bullshit form letter....just remember, the burden to prove you are not a nutbag is on you ;-)



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How In The Fuck Did I Miss This?

I swear to God I had pickles shooting out my nose this morning reading this loony bin shit! Yeah, pickles for breakfast, you got a problem with that? LOL

It's a freakin nutbag convention. It starts off a bit slow, but read it to the end paying special attention to the manifestos of the OP.

And anyone who follows the FOBots can look at the names responding and...well, that about says it all. It's kinda scary having so many nutters in one thread, LMAO.

All its....
missing
is the
rantings of....
tiresom turlsm
but...
at least she
got an
honorable...
mention.

Seriously Ms. mooch OP spirit name Padme A'Tea who walks & talks with the pods....why don't you go out and get a real fucking job instead of this talk about taking the nut show on the road. You keep hinting for "road show" money, but if no one is going to let you sleep in a tent under the stars with your pussy cat then I seriously doubt you are going to hit the mother load of change for toll booths! 4 months after you started your big journey you haven't even went around the block!

This is one of the most hysterical threads I have read over there in a long time! Please take my warning...do not drink (or eat pickles) while reading!

Oh, and here is a little P.S. for you....you can also find all these nutters over on the Tierra Madre thread singing his glory....surprised? I didn't think so :)

Uh Huh :)

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Short & sweet today...just a little good reading ;)


Yep!

You got it!

Awesome! (scroll down to Michael Vick Rides Barbaro)


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As Barbaro Turns (in his grave) continued.....

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So here we are not even with a full 72 hours in yet of Alex's "I'm pretending to listen to you" thread and it's already heading towards my prediction :) He is going to do whatever the hell he wants to do even if people type until their fingers bleed. He came on to pretty much confirm this last night....

A poster came on early in the thread that nailed him and his actions to a T...probably one of the best posts I have read on ABR in 3 years :) I could not have said this any better myself:

Alex, everyone knows you're not going to shut down this board. There's no way that you'll let this board leave the spot light.

What has changed since the thread has been up? Not a damn thing!

Alex has promoted himself on the forum for his blog radio and youtube....but hey, guess what? A long time member of ABR that everyone really liked just passed away...she was one of the most active anti slaughter supporter on the forum. She's spent countless hours on the phone, emailing and faxing our legislators and helped guide others in the fight....but did Alex wander over and share his condolences with the rest of the board? Nope...not one peep out of him.....that my friend, if nothing else, shows you what kind of "compassionate" human being is behind the screen.....

And in my search for something totally unrelated last night I came across this little tidbit from one of the moderators before they were a mod. Looks like the same questions and concerns from 2 years ago that are being voiced now, only I guess since she is Alex's right hand lady it's just not important to get those answers anymore. Just be sure and do not question a rescue she likes otherwise your post will disappear before you hit enter...pick on one she doesn't care for so she can sit silently by and watch the fun, LOL

Well, I think I'll give the subject of this thread a rest now until Alex's "30 days" are up and wait for the big announcement that it's all business as usual :)


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Ego Strokin' 101

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I guess with the recent? "ABR under ATTACK" (per the Board Nazi) that ol' Alex is feeling a little blue and inadequate so he's started a thread asking about the future of ABR. He's even pretending to listen to input from his members....

Here's my prediction of how things will go down....all of Alex's regular little panty throwers will chime in and pump the old chap up, a couple of people will have the balls to actually challenge the Nazi and most of the regulars won't even bother to respond because the like the idea of ABR but lost respect for Alex years ago....and the outcome will be Alex doing whatever the hell he wants to anyway ;)

I really considered getting an ID over in FOBville today and posting my thoughts on the matter, but I knew if a miracle happened and the post was allowed to stay that I'd never forgive myself for having my say under an alias....so here we are :)

Alex, ask yourself "what have I accomplished in the last 3 years on ABR" and look into the mirror and see the cold hard facts. You have created a community of mob mentality, liars, thieves, scammers, domestic terrorists, horse killers and felons and made it possible for them to all congregate in one place. All of the "sane" people left your ass in the dirt a long time ago.

You have also created a community of people going into dire straights financially because they don't have enough sense (until it's to late) to realize they are chasing some kind of twisted pipe dream.

Don't you have an ounce of guilt, any remorse or shame when people say they will miss meals, send money when they get their social security or disability checks, not pay a bill, and take away from their families all in the name of thinking they are saving a horse? Does it not pain you to look around your house and see all the people that are now hurting because of your little science project?

You have 2 moderators that do absolutely nothing and one who spends most of her time covering her own tracks. You'r FOBots (thanks ICERob :) and you claim to have saved 3100 horses but I'd bet you a steak dinner (or hell how about something you can relate to...drinks on the house!) if you could find 1,000 of those horses now. Wait, I'd settle for 500 ;) From the looks around ABR these days it looks like you keep saving the same ones over and over!

ABR has done nothing except cast a dark shadow on legitimate rescues. I bet the number of people that you and your FOB's have totally soured on rescues all together far super exceeds the number of horses you claim to have saved.

Hell you have a married nutbag trying on thongs and sending them to the "token male" rescue filled with money. Legitimate rescues everywhere crawl in their skin when the name Alex Brown is brought up.

ABR has lowered the standard in horse care 101. Your members spend most of their lives begging for the next bale of hay while they are making shipping arrangements to have more horses sent to them. Rescues post pictures of horses standing in lots that look like junk yards, packed in like sardines.....but then if anyone should dare say something the FOBots come along and try to convince everyone that not even basic care and knowledge is as bad as slaughter.

Countless threads have been devoted to tearing people apart, people who do not even participate on the forum, people who the FOB’s know nothing about. But they don’t like their opinion on something or maybe the way they list a horse on craigslist….so lets just rip everyone a new asshole even though they are clueless....but then Alex pouts when you question him ;)

I have to wonder if the FOB’s realize how really fucking stupid they are. They flag craigslist ad’s they do not like therefore decreasing the chance for exposure to get the horse out of the situation they do not like. Man, do I have a sign for you guys…..

If you want to look at things realistically, ABR has not saved one single horse....that's the biggest scam ABR and Alex has ran so far. Each and every horse that has been purchased at auction has only been replaced with another. Slaughter numbers have GROWN, not decreased over the last year. You guys have saved NOTHING! But you guys sure have killed a lot of horses "rescuing" them :(

Alex, your forum “managing” skills SUCK. I mean BIG TIME. You ban people who question you or your livelihood (we'll get to that in a bit ;) but allow people who are totally off their rocker to stay.

I also think Alex is from the school of "any publicity is good publicity"...as long as he gets him name out there is all that matters to him. He wants to make a name for himself so bad that he'll even except a bad name. Why do you think Alex requires rescues to have the all important WIKI? It certainly doesn't prevent fraud....with a WIKI all things come back to Alex Brown....he can watch his name crawl through the ranks of Google and finally feel a little important.

Now lets get to that livelihood that keeps Alex with his ban paddle handy should anyone question it :)

The FACTS are that of the approximate 9 million horses in the USA, 7 million of those are in the racing industry. The racing industry, just because of sheer numbers participating alone, is responsible for the majority of death related injuries, illegal drug, over drugging, unethical sportsmanship and overall abuse.

Alex's boss, Steve Asmussen, is one of those real dandy's of the racing world. It's hypocritical (not to mention comical!) that Alex tries to preach what he does with the close company he keeps. Most see through it...to many don't.

I often wonder if the husbands of the panty throwers would buy Alex a drink if they could. The craziness runs so rapid around ABR that I'm sure the husbands are thrilled to have their wives off their backs so they can pursue a normal life and maybe an affair or two :)

Do I think ABR has ran it's course? HELL YES I DO! I think you would be doing everyone a huge service and save a lot of people a lot of pain if you gracefully bowed out now before it gets even worse. Heck, you can't even deny the big changes that have been going on around ABR for some time now.

As for the rest of ABR....well if Alex wants to keep his name in some lights and do his little racing updates and keep a few panty throwers around, then so be it. There are a lot of nuts on the internet, it's not like he won't still fit in....But for the love of God, ditch the forum before ABR ruins even more lives and kills more horses!

Aren’t you, Alex, getting a little tired of riding on the coat tails of Barbaro yet? I think ABR's biggest accomplished is disgracing this horses name….every time real horse people think or hear of Barbaro now all they think of is you and your mighty band of wackadoodles…..

Yes, I do feel much better now....thankyouverymuch :)



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Livin' On Coffee & Can of Soup & Someone Elses Money

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Anyway that's what Jim of Tierra Madre Horse Sanctuary comes right out and claims...

Lets take a look at a rescue that houses just under 30 horses on a bit less than 3 acres, doesn't let a day go by without suggesting people need to send him money, claims no one can care for horses the way he can, claims to live off of coffee and sometimes a half can of soup to survive and always has some kind of tragedy going on....Oh, and the horses ONLY check in....they never check out.

Yep, just like prisoners on death row. Once the horses come to Tierra Madre they are there for life. Jim claims no one can give them the kind of care he can. Which would be all fine and dandy if he could afford those horses that are now "his"...but he can't. Hell he can't even afford to eat by his own admission.

He is very good at creative writing....all those years as a writer have really paid off. He can make an old lady wet herself like no other...sell an Eskimo ice and most important, use is creative writing style to gain the all important dough it takes to finance his personal herd of horses.

At just under 3 acres Jim claims he can house up to 30 horses and normally runs just below that. It's amusing to read Jim blog about building new pens for the horses and how the latest one was HUGE! Yes, HUGE!!!! Measuring almost 30' x 30'! OMG!

Jim posts several times a day on ABR....you never know what kinds of goodies will roll off his fingers. Just over a month ago Jim makes a post telling everyone he's sick and BROKE. This is pretty typical, it seems he gets into a bind quite often and makes these kind of posts. It works for him....the lonely housewives of ABR wet themselves to see how quick they can send him some more money.

But this day was different. Shortly after claiming to be broke Jim gets a phone call.....someone has asked him to take another horse and they want $700 for it....so a new thread is born! Help bring "Coloreado" to Tierra Madre! WOW, a lot can change in 8 hours I guess! Maybe he won the lotto? Oh, no...never mind, he's asking the lonely housewives to foot the whole bill and shipping too of course....imagine that :)

You would think that a group of people who profess to be advocates for horse welfare would not shit a pile of money to go send a horse off to go live with someone who is always broke...but were not talking normal people here...we're talking FOB's.

So Jim's "I'm broke" tears are quickly dried with a new horse.

Just a handful of days ago a thread called "Famous TB Smokey Stover needs a HOME" pops up....yep, only 14 replies into the post there is Jim...."We'll be more than glad to give Smokey a forever home - but can only do it if the $600 & shipping costs can be raised."

What made this so priceless? A few friends and I had been chatting when the thread started up and wondered how long before Jim would bebop over to try to capitalize on this "famous" horse. See, he likes to get hold of the ones that have some sort of notoriety....it makes it easier for those poor me, send me cash posts.

Seems a few are onto Jim and the good old "they only check in, they never check out" ways and aren't overly thrilled with 30 horses being crammed on less than 3 acres. They thought this guy deserved a real pasture and someplace he could actually run and not have to stop every few feet to turn around so he didn't smack into his prison cell.

Of course this didn't make Jim happy...not happy at all. He whined and cried around on that thread and also on his daily check in thread....he wanted his little group of lonely housewives to go over to Smokey's thread and tell everyone he needed to go to Jim's place....whaaaaaa, whaaaaaa, whaaaa.....Still didn't work out for the ol' boy...he claimed he was out politicked by people he didn't know....yeah, couldn't have had anything to do with the fact that some people didn't think the horse deserved to go to prison. So Jim makes one of his famous "no one could care for him the way I could have" posts....gag me...

Oh. and the lonely housewives tried to dry his tears with yet another horse...but Jim didn't seem to interested...not "famous" enough I suppose...... :)

One last piece of information....per Jim, if you don't like Obama then you are a racist, LMAO! He loves to spurt his political views...alienating one conservative at a time :)

I'd lay money on the fact that there will not be a good outcome for theses horses down the road.....
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If You Are Going To Scam Someone....

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.....at least pretend you're legitimate, LOL!

Yes, from the Board Nazi....a big announcement!

Because we all know that someone with a Wiki would NEVER hose anyone out of dough ;)

Lifelines
CBER
PEC
Mustang Hearts

Just to name a few of the rescues ABR and the FOB's have supported......

Didn't they all have a Wiki too?

I mean ABR already supports enough illegal activities such as PayPal fraud and domestic terrorism, why would a wiki, that anyone can make or make up, have any bearing on anything? Ahhhhhh......I guess it's good to be king :)


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Dumbest Shit I Have Read Today

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Ok, so I suppose everyone who might be reading this already knows about "Cloud" the wild mustang and the round up that the horsie huggers have been trying to stop (and thank God have failed at so far)....

I don't think a one of those people realize that horses of any type, are NOT native to America. If I read one more time how they have "always been here" or "roamed free for thousands of years" I am going to hurl. And you would think someone like Madeleine Pickens would be smart enough to know fact from fiction....but she thinks they are our "National Heritage" too.

Of course the ABR nutbags are all out in full swing....If this poster was any dumber she wouldn't even have the IQ of a turnip!


40707.6 in reply to 40707.1
OK - worse case scenerio ... if this does go as planned - won't the horses go up for auction? Can't we have people there to buy the horses and then turn around and set them free again as soon as they get them away from the auction sight?

And don't you just love the ones who think HUMANS should be killed because they want to control the horse population? It's especially entertaining when they use God in those messages....

I pray the helicopters crash and the BLM drives themselves off of cliffs. Sorry. That is how I feel. I have no compassion for man as a species.

Dear God protect your herd from the DEVIL.

Some mares will be sterilized, some of the older crippled ones put down, some will go up for adoption and some will be released back.......OH THE HORROR! There are several people over on ABR having a cow because they are going to sterilize the mares....

What gives these phonies ......... these idiots the right to "sterilize" the mares ?

Lets just leave them all alone, let them breed like rabbits and take over the world....would that make you happy? Wait, don't answer that.....these people are just dumb enough to love that idea....



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Goat Update :)

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Due to an anonymous donor the goats have been saved from the ugly truck! YAY!

One problem though...the person that took them on already has to may goats to feed...they have been begging all over the internet for food and basic care for their babies.

So now we need to pony up some cash and pay the owner to take care of these animals they chose to take on.

Oh! And let's not forget about the 2 months quarantine! It costs so much more than regular care you know. $300 per goat for 2 months ought to cover it...

Feed, vet, dewormer will need to be paid by someone else for life!

Let's set a goal amount of $5000!

Sorry, I don't know how to add orbs or glitter to the pictures of the goats....I hope that doesn't hurt their fundraising!

Remember....NO GOAT LEFT BEHIND!!!!!!!

(these goats found a great home where they will be spoiled and all their needs will be taken care of by the new owner :)


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GOATS HAVE UNTIL 6/15 OR THEY WILL DIE!

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Come on, we can do it! Let's save these 4 sweet precious little goats! They are headed to the auction if good homes cannot be found! And we all know what will happen to them if they end up there!



Ransom: $50 each = $200






Aren't these sweet precious little goats worth as much as a horses life? We can arrange shipping! They shouldn't cost more than $500-600 each to have them sipped across the country!



The ugly truck is on it's way!



Don't let the blood of these precious little babies be on your hands!



Can't we save them in the God like name of Barbaro?



BUMP!



(These goats are really for sale in central Illinois...email me if interested )


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Hey Hay?!?

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Ok, so I've bitched before about the ABRites turning lose their dough to buy horses when someone screams "ugly truck" but clamming their wallets up when ask to actually feed and care for the horses they are enabling these so called rescues to take on.

It's pretty depressing to read all the threads where a rescues are begging for hay, set a goal of lets say $1000 with 20, 30, 40...head of horses on the property and after a month they have raised like $200 bucks.

So my question is, how are these horses eating? Are they starving while they are waiting for the next person to throw $20 at them so 40 horses can split 5 bales of hay? Are the rescues coming up with the hay on their own by actually paying for it themselves yet keep begging?

This is one of the scariest things I see with these rescues. Especially since so many horses have had to be rescued from their rescuers "All for the love of Barbaro".

I'm suppose to be the no good dirty rotten bitch who should burn in hell for thinking slaughter is OK....but you know what? I have never in my life had 1 report filed against me, my horses have never missed a meal, their feet, teeth and shots are all current, they have a great barn, a nice safe lot without a bunch of junk shit it in and want for nothing (well, ok, Bo is a little pissed since I put his fat ass on a diet :)......and guess what? I pay for every fucking dime of it myself and would never dream of it being any other way....but I'm the one that sucks? LMAO

Oh, BTW, I abuse ALL my animals...not just the horses, LOL

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Take Two

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I think it's time for me to take a new turn (mixed with some of the old) with this blog. I've had the hardest time posting......by the time I read all of the shit on ABR my brain is just so jumbled with the fucktards and their leader that I don't even know where to begin or what to say. So I'm going to try this bit and blog for me for a while and throw in bits and pieces of craziness with each post.

I guess I'll start that with the next blog though...today I'm going to play a bit of catch up :)

First, let's relive Mustang Hearts for a minute. If you're not familiar with this so called rescue and the nut bag who runs it start here and then a little more catch up reading for you. This woman is scary off her rocker!

Pretty much everything people feared (well the ones who didn't wear those funny colored glasses) came true a few months ago...Her latest savior had to quit funding her hoarding habits and Debbie life took another crazy twisted turn. Mustang Hearts is no longer....that's the good news!

Now the bad news....A handful of the horses went to smaller rescues but she sent 30+ to a place called Orphan Acres that already had 60-70 horses. Not only did she send the horses there but he also took in her lazy filthy ass to "help out". Naturally that didn't last more than a few weeks. Tempers flared, fists flew and Debbie was once again out on her ass.

But for some reason, NOW that OA won't have anything to do with the nutbag they are the root of all evil and she's going balls to the wall trying to get him shut down. She claims horses are dying and starving to death.

Now before I go any further I'll give my opinion on OA. From the web site it looks like a shit hole. I would never send a horse there for any reason. But for Debbie it was the answer to all of her prayers...another place for her and her horses to live for free while it lasted. All I am thankful for is that she signed all of the horses over to him so when she went out on her ass the horses didn't go with. While the place is as big of a shit hole as Debbie's places always became, at least OA has been in one spot for 30+ years and not totally reliant on the dime of others and constantly shuffling from place to place.

I don't think OA has any business trying to manage the amount of horses that they do but this was Debbie's choice. She declined all sorts of offers from other smaller rescues to get these horses where they are now and then bitches and cries about the neglect and abuse they are alledgelly enduring.

Debbie has it in her mind that this is not her fault, she is once again a victim. I just have one thing to say to her...

Hey Debbie you fucking crazy ass nutbag loser-YOU put the horses there. No one but YOU! If horses are dying and starving to death it is YOUR fault. No one else's! See what happens when you cry wolf one to many times, no one except for a handful of other nutbags believe your shit! YOU are the cause of ALL of this drama! Sleep on that for a while!

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It seems like the handful of rescues that are left on ABR are all at each others throats. Competition for the few dollars that remain there is my guess. The Board Nazi doesn't even show up much these days unless it's to promote his latest blog entry or to ban someone.

I had to laugh...the other day one rescue was going after another. The rescue throwing the venom was also posting on ICERS and had posted they and Alex were emailing and they were getting banned. So yeah, t happened...the rescue gets banned. Some people weren't happy and made it known. Alex pops back on and posts "XXXX was banned by mistake" and walla, they are back on. Way not to put any blame on yourself Alex! After all it wasn't YOU who made the mistake, huh? LMAO. Little man, big ego is perfect and cannot personally take the blame for mistakes I suppose......

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This morning with my first cup of coffee I read where a horse has been down for hours and it wasn't the first time. The horse is 30ish years old. Of course everyone is wishing the horse well and a few posts down I read "I know that feeling I had it for two yrs with my first horse that lived to be 38. For two yrs we would lift him to his feet because his back legs were not stong enough to push himself up".......that's some real quality life there losers! I am so glad I'm not a rescue so I can make horses endure more pain and suffering at the hand of so called saviors than they ever could at a slaughter plant! Most of these people have no business owning a frog, let alone a horse....

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Congratulations Alex Brown Racing!

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WOOT! 1 Million posts! What an amazing announcement!

Now take away:

All the "BUMP" posts...

The posts with nutbags talking like horses....alive and dead...

All the cute and glittery pictures of Barbaro...

The random .gif's thrown in that have nothing to do with anything...

The idle completely off topic chitter chatter...

And what? That leaves you with about 10 meaningful posts, LMAO. Congrats again! What an acomplishment :)

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Now What?

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Whenever horse slaughter is brought up I always ask where the love for the cows and chickens are....I am normally greeted with the weak argument that horses are so much more intelligent and cows and other animals just can't be trained the way horses are.

So lets take a looksie shall we, on just how dumb the food on our plate looks....





Google "show jumping cow in Switzerland"....it's real. Along with some of these other fine moo moo's:

A girl and her cow...

A whole group dedicated to riding cows :)

Another cow enthusiast.....

Poor stupid little chickens. There are a lot of different video of trained chickens on the net, Google.

Pigs are highly intelligent animals. I don't think that needs to be argued, but here is a video anyway :)

And for fucks sake PUT AWAY THE MOUSE TRAP!!!! Yes, I know we don't eat them...but they are obviously highly intelligent and should be left alone to dominate the world!

Am I getting my point across here or not...

But, but, but....your a vegan you say? Well good for you but I'm not, neither are most Americans. Why is it when the anti horse slaughter activests are questioned about there intentions they alway assure us they are NOT after our beef or other critters we enjoy eating so much....BUT.....there are always several threads within their forum comunities praising Veganism and how everyone should be doing it? Huh, what the fuck is up with that?

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Business As Usual

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Even after all of the scams have came to light on ABR, with the latest one being the biggest yet, it's still business as usual over there.

How can someone who has never seen a facility or met someone in person put their name behind them? Sing their praises?

SINCE Lifelines, I have seen people raise questions.....someone else jump in and tell everyone what a fine rescue so and so is, they are on the up and up and people are mean and evil fools for questioning them....yet on 3 occasions I have private emailed the "supporters" and ask very nicely "Have you been to this facility or met the people in charge" and all 3 times I have been responded to with "Well, no, BUT......". Sorry folks, that makes NO fucking sense!

We've all seen lately where pretty pictures and nice stories have done for the rescue world via internet.....

Here's a post from the dear moderator that supported Lifelines so much. It was made before she became a moderator, but here she is supporting another POS rescue.....with an attitude like this I see exactly why the Board Nazi chose her......an exert:

I don't know about others but I am just so damn sick and tired of seeing these attacks against rescues. Do people have NOTHING better to do than to think of ways to try to discredit and attack rescues?

All I have to say is GET A LIFE, and SHAME SHAME On you..

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Nut Bags & Whackjobs

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First, a little continuance from the previous blog and a rescue called Lifelines....If you haven't read the comments section for the previous blog, you really should. There's some damn good investigation going on there!

Wouldn't you think that the FOB's would want to insure this not happening again? To be scammed out of thousands of dollars? Nope, cover up is all their concerned about. There afraid they'll come off looking like nut jobs (here's a hint: TO FUCKING LATE :)...

30628.998
The only thing I'd like to say is that someone suggested bringing the media in to publicize the story and all the people involved with LL.
I don't think that's a good idea, but some of you may feel otherwise. As bona fide rescues, we don't need any more public skepticism about our credibility. If the story got out on LL, I think it would damage the reputation of every rescue. (Every rescue? I hardly think so.....just the ones on ABR who spend more time begging for funds than taking care of there little ponies)

30628.1001
I agree with you that until this plays out, it would not be a good idea to alert the press. Until you have more answers, an article at this time may put the tried and true rescues in jeopardy with potential adopters. (and who are these tried and true rescues? Wasn't LL one of those?)

I would think if the Board Nazi was any kind of man he would have done put down his pencil writing about the memoirs of brushing Barbaro and wrote some kind of press release to protect his beloved board and FOB's before some nut like me comes along and exposes the truth of the matter :)

Oh, and as for the head honcho scam cover up moderator mistress on ABR:

24250.5 in reply to 24250.1
SHAME on you for giving her the time aday on here.. You of all people "should" know better........... tsk tsk tsk... good job

Maybe you should have given me the time of day instead of banning me and deleting my posts when I popped in with info on Lifelines.....


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Onto more fun stuff :)

I ran across this post on ABR this morning, love it, love it, love it......


30815.1
Do any other posters here wonder if outsiders that read this forum get the wrong impression? I know that often, when trying to educate the media, and our public officials, they are given links to this BB, for info on slaughter/rescue. If for some reason, they then "browse" around this forum, they'll find people trying to pretend they are Barbaro/Nicanor posting on a BB, or they see posts from people who are writing that they are sobbing hysterically about Barbaro this long after his death, or people being asked to light candles for a dead horse because the number of candles is low.

Do you ever worry that those things make us look like whackjobs, and therefore reduces the credibilty of our anti-slaughter position? I mean, the pro slaughter side can tell people, "Well, just go LOOK at some of the posts on that forum. Those people are nutjobs!" And if they read some of these threads, they'll agree with the pro slaughter side. The good that has been done by members of this forum becomes invisible, when pro-slaughter side people use the other posts to prove that the anti slaughter side is a bunch of emotionally unstable, middle aged housewives playing the adult version of "My Pretty (dead) Pony".

Personally, Im afraid to link to this BB (even the WIKI section) for fear that the reader might actually browse around...

I have to give this gal some credit. She's taking major heat for her post and she didn't go back and modify or delete it. Of all the FOB's out there, this woman truly "Gets it". She's been a member there for quite some time but is being treated the same as "I see you just joined today" posters....If I was this gal I would take what marbles I have left in my brain from even attempting to be a part of this and run like Forrest Gump! It's clear she is to "normal" for that place :)

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More ABR Scams, Lies, Cover Up's & Dead People?

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Well it's been a couple of exciting weeks over on the nut bag board......

Let me start with giving you a little history on a rescue called Lifelines, who claimed to be a 501c3 rescue....for the last couple of years they have been on ABR begging for anything from feed to fence to rent. They've had to unexpectedly "move" at least 3 times that I know of.....around every corner there was a red flag but the FOB's choose to ignore them and continuously threw money.

Several questions were raised over time.....and we all know that isn't allowed on the Nazi board to begin with, but what made this rescue even more protected from criticism is that one of the moderators on ABR, well, this was one of her babies. I can't tell you how many times I've seen posts deleted and members banned for asking legitimate questions of them.

Lets fast forward to November 6th.....A post is made by the moderator who has sang praises and glory for this rescue (MaryLOhio), that the owner of Lifelines, Theresa Driesbach, had passed away the night before. And to PLEASE send (can you guess? :) MONEY to the husband who is going to carry on her "dream"....referring to the rescue of course.

Imagine to everyone's surprise when the obituary came out and the owner of, here after referred to as LL, Lisa Zeller had passed.....

Damn little digging uncovered that the Zeller woman was indeed who everyone referred to as Theresa Driesbach, Lisa had been convicted of identity theft at least once. Also uncovered, again with damn little digging, that SUPRISE! LL was indeed not a 501c3 rescue, she had been arrested on more than one occasion, was involved in dog rescue at one time and was found to be a fraud then, not to mention a little abuse going on too.

I'm sure there is shit I'm missing, but honestly I'm not going to put that much energy into today's blog with going through all the crap I've researched and saved.....that should have been the job of all the people who threw money.....but I especially blame the moderator for what I can only refer to as a major cover up with all the praises she sang and posts that were deleted and members banned when anyone questioned LL.

MaryL has since modified the original death post to take out the part to send money of course......AFTER God only knows ow much money was sent. It's all about covering your tracks over there :)

So not only could all of this had been avoided with allowing questioning, now the members who donated to a fake 501c3 have to worry about the money they claimed on last years taxes and not being able to claim any donations on this years.

It gets better...if you didn't waste your time reading the link I posted above here is a basic run down for you of the events since Nov. 6th....well ok, the events since the beginning of LL coming to ABR. LOL

LL begs funds on ABR for 2 years.....right down to carrots and rent.

Red flags everywhere.

You ask questions, you get banned.

Double difficult, rescue is friends with a MOD. Questions 200% prohibited.

LL owner dies.

Mod comes on, announces death, says please send all your $ to husband to help carry on "the dream".

Obituary comes out....whoops, different name than the person they knew!

LL owner previously convicted of ID theft......

Next day husband who is "carrying on dream" is selling horses.

More info comes to light. Rescue owner has about 6 identities.

Opps, more info....LL owner died of AIDS two years ago too per a dog rescue forum.

SS# were required on all the adoption contracts.

Husband supposedly skipped town with the computer with all evidence on it....not to mention the "dream" money....wait, husbands back? Where is the computer? Who the fuck knows....

LL used a fake 501c3 and as been collecting donations for 2 years.

People who claimed them on taxes last year are fucked.

Bottom line.....person may or may not be dead, thousands of dollars given to the rescue after the death at a MODS request, and a hubby of felon with a ton of SS#'s.

In a way I feel a little guilty getting this much pleasure when a person could have actually died....then again I'm not overly bothered because of a long list of convictions from the ID theft to animal abuse.

The FOB's worshiped this woman.

Oh....and since the funds were raised on ABR ALL the FOB's think they own them and there is a huge power struggle going on. It's fucking awesome....sorry.....

There's about 10 threads going on now for this debacle.....there easy to find if you have several hours of your life to completely waste that you'll never get back. So far there has been several people claiming to be in charge of what going to happen to the horses now. It depends what day it is as to who's in charge. It's a huge cluster fuck!

One would think after this mess that the board Nazi and his minions would allow some questioning of rescues to go one. Hell, it even looked promising for a minute. But it's gone back to business as usual over there....

A rescue that amazing enough, several FOB's have questioned, took a little heat yesterday. The rescue is called Hidden Meadows Equine Rescue or HMER for short. Another that needs money for absolutely everything, down to band-aids, and has a farm that looks like a shit hole.....not to mention the lady has a real tough time with math, but it's ok, it always works out in her favor ;)

Questions deleted, members banned and the thread was locked. I see it's back open for posting now.....someone must have thrown an empty beer bottle at the board Nazi.

Bottom line is, AGAIN, if questions were allowed, standards set, people researched and moderators playing fair, the LL deal could have saved people a lot of time, energy and money....but I guess it would take away from the "numbers saved" that seem to be the MOST important thing over there.....even though I guarantee they couldn't tell you where 10% of those horses are now!

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Sorry ICERs, I read a couple of things over there this morning that had me ROTFLMAO and so true......I have to share :)

Top 10 Standards of Behavior required on ABR that banned posters did not meet:

10. Smile all the time, or send smileys, or send bunnies that smile, or any cartoon with a smile on it.

9. Tell Alex how wonderful he is and how important he is to the horse industry on a daily basis.

8. Overlook any seemingly odd situations at "rescue" organizations in order to use more smiley cartoons, etc.

7. Say "I get it" or "She gets it" or "You get it" in at least three posts a month.

6. Mention Barbaro, what Barbaro is doing now, what Barbaro is thinking now, or any form of Barbaro comment whenever possible.

5. Take photos with orbs and post them regularly.

4. Tell Alex how wonderful he is and how important he is to the horse industry on a daily basis.

3. Pretend that ALL the horses ever given money to were REALLY RESCUED/SAVED from the kill pen, kill buyer, death, bad rescues, etc.

2. Whenever Alex writes a blog, column, goes on the radio, etc. be prepared to follow this up with a gushing comment on how important he is to the horses.
AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON............ARE YOU READY..........???? CAN YOU GUESS????

1. WIKI WIKI WIKI WIKI WIKI WIKI WIKI.... (as in no Wiki, no upkeep of Wiki, think Wiki is Whacky....etc.)

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Alex doesn't give a $hit about anything but Alex.

Someone dies. Not a word from Alex.

Dozens of supporters scammed. Not a word from Alex.

One of his moderators involved in the biggest scam yet. Not a word from Alex.

Horses go missing. Not a word from Alex.

Illegal activity on his board. Not a word from Alex.

Opinions/advice given on how to make things better. Alex plays the 'poor me' card.

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It's been so long since I really blogged I could type forever....but alas, I won't. I'll just look forward to the next scam :)

Update 11/21/08 You guys HAVE to read the comments here! There is all sorts of stuff being posted related to this that will blow your mind! LOL!

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My Crickets Aren't Lonely!

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A couple of times now I've blogged about the Animal Welfare Institute hooking up with the National Black Farmers Association. You can catch up here and here :)

Imagine my surprise today when I headed over to the nut bag FOB forum and found they were having the same problems I did!

http://forums.delphiforums.com/alexbrown/messages?msg=30187.1

Yet ANOTHER press release by the horsie huggers that was nothing but a lie....and they still wonder why people laugh and point whenever they flap their jaws (well, ok, fingers!)...

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New Beginings

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A short time ago some friends and I started a horse forum. It is NOT slaughter related, even though there is an area for that. For those of you who hate me, I certainly wouldn't expect to be treated any different than you are here in that area...LOL. But if your looking for some good old fashioned horse chat and learning without all the fru fru, I invite all to join :)

Midwest Horse

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More Rampant Poll Cheating & Other Goodies

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You just have to love this group of people.....I mean seriously.....

Here is a poll done by Washingtonwatch.com on bill H.R. 6598 Prevention of Equine Cruelty Act 2008.....(hey, while you're there, cast your vote!).....

In ABR, anti slaughter hysterics, we gotta cheat to win style, the votes aren't going the way the FOB's think they should so they are going with their typical "vote early and often" method. Link to the thread.....and post highlights for when the King and his minions see this post and have the evidence banished:


28372.8 in reply to 28372.1
I just voted again from a different computer.
Kelly


28372.16 in reply to 28372.15
I just commented and the vote is still 59% for the Bill.
Please keep voting for this Bill!!


28372.31 in reply to 28372.30
BUMP Keep voting.


28372.37 in reply to 28372.36
Someone posted on http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_6598.html what I saw a couple of days ago. You can vote again after a day or so. I tried to let you know by saying keep voting. Now it's posted on this site.


28372.38 in reply to 28372.37
The vote hasn't moved since last night.
Still at 50% to 50%.
But that is progress!!!!!
Vote again. Can be done.
Ronnie
Psst: Try typing vote web link into your computer's address bar. Works sometimes to be ok to vote more.
Ronnie


28372.39 in reply to 28372.38
You're right. I just voted again. Still at 50%-50%


28372.41 in reply to 28372.40
I just voted again and we need more votes...... it is 51% against now!!!

BTW, this time I played it smart.....I contacted Washingtonwatch with a link to the ABR thread and asked for an email back when it was viewed. To many things seem to vanish before it gets seen by those that need to see it, especially once someone like me gets on the trail :)

A walk down memory lane if you don't already know I've busted them on poll cheating at least twice before this incident:

http://bustedupcowgirlblog.blogspot.com/2008/01/here-we-go-again.html

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Here is another good one for you......Let's bury our heads in the sand and act like there isn't a problem even though we REALLY know there is one!

I just LOVE this post.....You only have 4 acres but wouldn't turn down a truck load of horses if they showed up at your door step.....can you say "mentally ill"?

And here is your hypocrisy for the day.....LMAO....these are just pieces from the original posts if you don't want to muddle through the BS:

Post from a member after presenting FACTS with PROOF:

28236.47 in reply to 28236.46
I am not trying to bash another rescue.
Why is it when something that is true is posted, it is always removed.
I have proof of everything I stated.

Reply by King Alex:

28236.48 in reply to 28236.47
this statement by you, can you confirm you stand by it. it seems you do not appreciate the work we do on this board and i simply want that confirmed by you. cheers, alex

Why is it when something that is true is posted, it is always removed

Response by poster:

28236.57 in reply to 28236.54
Dear Alex
I greatly appreciate the work this board is doing. That is why it upsets me so much that some people are taking advantage of this Board. And why I am standing up for the great rescues here that are doing wonderful work for the horses.
I know the no one wants to be told that they helped someone who was using them. It is embarassing for one thing. But if it is the truth, I personally would want to know.

The board Nazi has spoken:

28236.67 in reply to 28236.57
sure, but you certainly do not appreciate how we manage this board. cheers, alex
Alex Brown

And "POOF" the posted has been banned......proving without a doubt "when something that is true is posted, it is always removed."

Thanks again FOB's for providing more continuous fodder :)

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Interesting Reads For The Day

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The State of the Horse Industry Since the Closing of the Horse Harvesting Facilities

And if you're not a member of this group, please sign up!

United Horsemen's Front

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Crickets In My Inbox

That's all I've gotten since I sent AWI and NBFA emails over a week ago about them taking and placing unwanted horses.......Here is where I blogged about them a little over a month ago when the release was made.

So I set up a dummy email account, made up a sob story and asked for help. What I got was silence. Why am I not surprised? Guess I titled my previous blog more than correctly!

And talk about crickets.....

Guess who I got an email from on June 10th?!? The King himself....Alex Brown.

I had made a post on ICERs forum taking a stab at him of course about his banning policies.....so for some reason Alex thought he just had to send me a little something.....it went like this:

Alex Brown [alexbr.brown@gmail.com]
To: <bighorse@mchsi.com>

i have been surprised at how harsh you have been about me over the last few months on icers and your site. i thought i had treated you pretty fairly considering. oh well. cheers, alex

Treated me fairly? OMG I about spit my teeth out! What's even funnier is instead of keeping my email on a list or just looking it up, he had actually replied to an email I had sent him almost a YEAR ago! Which he never answered BTW.

For you reading pleasure.....the email I sent almost a year ago he hit reply too :)

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 9:26 AM, <bighorse@mchsi.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,

Can you please tell me what kind of rule I violated on your forum to be banned this time?

And why in the world would you delete a post where I was defending myself? Why are you allowing me to be slandered like this? Do you have that much hate towards someone you do not know? Did you even read it?

Why am I expected to sit back and watch as people keep bringing my name into stuff that I have nothing to do with?

Did you know it takes less than 60 seconds to get a new ID every time I have been banned? I would think that you would want to know which one I was to keep an eye on me.

I would really appreciate an answer. I find the fact that you allow this kind of slander without allowing one to defend themselves very disturbing.

Danielle

Remember.....this ALL took place before this blog was born....the Blog was born on Thursday, December 27, 2007 as a direct result of this email I sent to Alex on Aug 10, 2007 and NEVER got a response.........

With my jaw on the ground that he was saying how fair he thought he'd been after not responding to this email for a year (I don't think he ever meant to include the text from the old email :) I sent him this back:

From: bighorse@mchsi.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:41 PM
To: [mailto:alexbr.brown@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: Forum

How do you think you have treated me fairly? This email is almost a year old and you never answered it. Read the questions…..do you think they are unreasonable questions? If someone is being slandered they should have the opportunity to defend themselves, that is not an unreasonable request. Yet it went ignored.

This was the ONLY reason for my blog, I did not start it before you started playing censorship. Doesn’t feel too good to get trashed and not be able to say “Now wait a minute…..” Now does it?

I would love to have an open dialogue with you if you’re interested. You are catty, I’ll give you that. And maybe I might just find something nice to think about you when were done.

Dani

After 20 days guess what I got back? Nuttin but more crickets in my inbox :) Imagine that.......

Paychecks Are More Important!!!

At least to Alex Brown.....Head leader of the Kool Aid drinkers.

It's no secret Alex works for Steve Asmussen who has anything but the best interest of horses in mind when it comes to winning.

I ran across this quote on ABR this morning and I could not have said it ANY better myself!

26185.9 in reply to 26185.8
It appears that Alex has quite a conflict of interest here.

It is difficult to work for yes a "serial violator" such as Steve Asmussen and then maintain a forum for open discussion of racing news, horse welfare and safety, racing reform and anti-slaughter efforts..

At some point, he will need to clearly choose which side he stands with..
cheers!!

Of course this post was a result of Alex coming in a and deleting a post about Asmussen and his shady activities and then banning the person from posting. When will Alex get a clue that Delphi boards suck for people who do not like freedom of speech? It takes two seconds to get another ID and come back to make you look like the ass that you are.....such as this case :)

And if you haven't already lost your breakfast take a look at this......Alex posts this on his Mother Ship......

lately I have been working on the wiki. i wanted to write about what we have been doing, essentially using the wiki as the medium rather than a book, for which i have no publishing deal.

here is the entry on "Fans of Barbaro":

http://alexbrownracing.com/wiki/index.php/Fans_of_Barbaro

of course this is a work in progress and I am interested in any feedback. its quite long.
cheers, alex

He's getting feedback alright :)

http://forums.delphiforums.com/ICERS/messages?msg=721.1

http://forums.prospero.com/alexbrown/messages?msg=26217.1

Be sure and read that Wiki page over real good now LOL! And I also think we can clearly see why a book deal isn't hitting him in the head.....the man can barely form a sentence. Yeah, I know, I can't either....but now I ain't tryin' to sell myself at every turn, now am I? :)

More Bull Shit...um, errrr...I Mean Horse Shit

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The Animal Welfare Institute (AWI) has launched a program they call "Project Wanted Horse". Of course all the anti slaughter zealots are screaming "What excuse will the pro side use now since there are no more unwanted horses?!?"

Personally I'm going to stick to my story....there are thousands of unwanted horses out there! You guys are nut bags and don't have a frickin' clue :)

The ABR forum has not skipped a beat begging for homes and money since this "project" has been launched. Of course the FOB's have done a media blitz with this release and me being the outstanding citizen that I am had to follow behind them and give links to all the unwanted horses and rescues still screaming "I'm at maximum capacity" on the very same forum in which this release was posted.

Why are there so many unwanted horses still looking for a home if this is a success? Why are rescues on ABR still offering horses needing homes for NO adoption fee? Why aren't they picking up the phone and calling AWI to come get them? Why all the hysteria still if an unwanted horse no longer exists?

So far this project is like the many many other pipe dreams the radical whackaloons have came up with......A FAILURE! Wake up and smell the horse shit people ;)

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Just A Quickie :)

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Alex Brown (AKA The Board Nazi) from ABR will be part of a live chat on Thursday, June 26th on bloodhorse.com. Here's a link to submit a question.....I wonder if he'll do the good old pick and choose, or will he finally answer a direct question?...I guess we'll see :)

Just a little add on for June 24th.....

Alex is on his forum telling the kool aid drinkers what questions to ask again. From Alex:

yes, I am psyched about this. good and thoughtful questions would be great. anything from what its like galloping at Woodbine to what its like seeing horses at New Holland ... what should we do with unwanted horses ... will Curlin come to Canada ... etc. etc.

basically I hope the questions run the spectrum, but also address hard issues.

cheers, alex

Now WHY, if you had your own forum with your own members where questions can be (well unless he doesn't like them....LOL) asked at any time, would you tell people to go somewhere else and ask him questions? Rhetorical question of course, we all know the answer.....if his FOB's didn't come to the live chat to ask questions then he'd be sitting in a lonely room with just me at his side....LOL! He needs a little more ego stroking....it might make him look important if people show....

I've asked Alex this question a hundred times and of course no answer....not surprising.....

Alex, if you are so concerned about horses and their welfare, especially race horses, then WHY in the world do you work for Steve Asmussen who has one of the worst reputations in the racing world?

How many charges of drugging horses does Steve have against him again? Oh yeah, 22, that's right :)

Money must be more important in the end.....

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Mustang Hearts Dump N Drama

Let's take a walk down memory lane for a minute......I blogged about this rescue back in December, here we are six months later and nothing has changed.....and I mean NOTHING!

The chick still has over 45+ horses. Who really knows.....she quit answering questions a long time ago. She still has her little cult of followers that continuously bump her ABR Begathons and post "will send you $ when I get paid". It's the same crowd.....all the sane people run away to fast to drop a dollar on their way by these days.

A short catch up summary of this hoarder....um.....I mean rescue.....

Still doesn't adopt, only "free leases". Has "free leased" several over the past 6 months but somehow they either don't work out, she repo's them the "karma" isn't right or she takes in more. She had 45 6 months ago and she claims to have that many now.

It finally happened.....In march it was made public tat she lost her place. Well, she didn't make it public, even denied it for a while....but her landlord gave permission to post an email she sent to Debbie on the internet. She was suppose to be out by June first, but she's still dragging her feet.

Oh wait! Before I go any further I just have to let you see these pictures! This one was taken back in the winter....

Please note the horsie standing at the top of the steps :)

Now this next picture was just put on the net not to long ago. Note the horsie is missing from the porch......1000 Extra bonus points if you can tell me what else is missing......LOL!

WHERE THE HELL DID THE STEPS GO???????????

Holy horse shit Batman!

That's where this chick LIVES! Well this is where she is getting kicked out of too! It looks like a cute little place.....do you want to hear the worst thing about all this???? The people who own this cute little cabin gave it rent FREE to Debbie when she moved in.....before the hoarding days (or who knows, she may have been starting over from a hoarding past?) when she had 18 horses she "rescued".

But instead of taking good care of her little rent free haven she goes and fucks the place all up. Remember the picture of the horse INSIDE this nice little rent free house? And all the garbage in there? Some thanks those people got for their kindness....

She claims to have another rent free place for them all to go now......she says the new people "Get it"......no, they don't now but I'm sure they will......

Typical day on ABR for Debbie.....

Debbie: I need more money!

Debbie's minions: BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP

Debbie: I was communicating with the horses today and they said they wanted more cookies and they never want to be rode or work a day in their life. They only want to be with people who can dance with them in their mind like me.

Debbie's minions: BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies!

People with half a brain: Why do you keep taking on more horses than you can afford? Why do you keep your horses in unsanitary nasty filth not to mention dangerous conditions? Are all of these horses receiving adequate veterinary care?

Debbie: How dare you question me! I have a deep psychotic bond with my horses! I am a saint! Please take it off line and email me if you have any concerns! I will always answer emails!

Debbie's minions: BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies! BUMP for cookies!

Debbie: Having problems with my email. Can't get them. Will be off line for days, maybe months even!

5 minutes later......No one is suppose to notice Debbie posting on other threads......

Debbie's minions: BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP

Debbie: I lost all my emails. If you sent me money I probably didn't get it so send it again! I need MORE money!!!!

Debbie's minions: BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP BUMP

Geezzzz.......ok, end of rant.....I have to stop myself or I could go on and on and on! Time for a daiquiri and a little couch time to get my blood pressure back under control! LOL!!!!

eBay, Lying, Cheating.....Typical FOB Stuff

I've known this was going on for quite some time.....I've had plenty of "tips" dropped off in my email, have even recently been a victim.....but I never had anything in cold hard writing to show proof.....

An eBay seller not long ago posted a picture for sale of Eight Belles down on the track. Of course the FOB's about shit themselves and immediately went to condemning the seller and reporting the auction to any eBay email address they could find. Here is the post I have been waiting for though! Now there it is in black and white :)


24036.36 in reply to 24036.35
The real way to make this seller pay is to buy it using BIN, pay for it, then after recieving it leave seller negative feedback.

Under new eBay feedback rules in effect 5/19/08, sellers cannot leave buyers negative or neutral FB.

You can give him bad star ratings, too. Ebay has a new formula where if you have bad FB or star ratings you get a lesser position in the search. This seller deals in sports memorabilia, a field already crowded. A $6.25 investment would hurt this seller.

The auction has around 10 hours left, and seller can't modify or remove it himself.

Remember, if you do this, to be patient, and leave FB after reciept of the product, or seller can claim hostile bidding.

The photo could also be forwarded to the owner (photog, AP) intact in the unopened envelope, for possible court action.

Make sure it is paid with PayPal in case it isn't sent, you can file through PP for refund. The buyer RULES at eBay
quick link to listing http://tinyurl.com/3wsc58 (If eBay removes listing, auction will become invisible) I made a PDF of his listing

go get him!

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It's not like we all didn't know already how much the FOB's enjoy cheating and screwing people over.....LOL.....I'm just glad their dumb enough to keep posting this crap on the Internet :)

Eight Bells & The Board Nazi

Emotions are running high on ABR since the Kentucky Derby 2nd place winner Eight Belles had to be euthanized. So where is the fearless leader in this time of need? Well.....he's posting about his new blog on the NYT and promoting it! Sorry FOB's, your shit out of luck.....oh, he did post a little blurb about the filly....but it was also on the NYT blog....no comfort on his mother ship forum.

He did make it back to his own forum in time to do another round of banning members though! Like I said, emotions are running high and you have a lot of FOB's bashing horse racing right now.....so instead of trying to understand, giving some healing time, he goes right to the ban paddle. What a sad little man.......

Here are a couple of his comments....of course I added my thoughts in green :)

those that were banned either advocated for the end of horse racing or simply suggested they were done with the sport. this IS a horse racing site. Hum...but you turned it into an anti slaughter, saving the world site. Like it or not, horse racing does contribute to the slaughter pipe line dumb ass.

there is also a distinct lack of respect for me and the sport among a few prominant "FOBs". I will likely simply just ban those ppl if their behavior continues and they know exactly who they are. enough is enough. respect is necessary. cheers, alex I repeat, respect is nessecary!!!!! My fragile little ego can't handle it when you speak the truth!Even though I am a moron I DEMAND respect!!!!!

This is what he posted to a gal he obviously doesn't care for to much and I get the feeling she's not a big fan of his either :)

lynn, you have been banned once. you came back under another username, which breaks the rules. i have perservered with you assuming it is the right thing to do. you have shown significant lack of respect for me for a long time. i am stating this for the last time, respect me or leave. cheers, alex But Alex, doesn't this person work hard for what the FOB's are suppose to be? Why should anyone have to kiss your ass? Oh, ego....that's right. Well at the rate your going you will be down to the 16 year old little girls and the lonely old house wife Alex worshipers soon enough....

Another thing.....Alex is suppose to have a good education and is writing a book about Barbaro and the FOB's......can his spelling and grammar suck any worse for someone who is so much into self promotion? OMG......LMAO!

I just have to post this.....there is a lot of stupid shit posted over on ABR but this takes the cake. It's in reference to the death of Eight Belles. WARNING...........Please do not read this with any food or liquid in your mouth....LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Thank you for the picture. I want to throw up still. Thank God I have all of you in my living room via the net. That innocent smokey gray creature with her adorable striped tube socks on her legs lying on the track still wanting to run is stuck in my head and I can't go to sleep. This is what nightmares are made of. Afterwards, these lady horses are forced to have sex with different men horses they don't know that well so they can become pregnant only for their baby to be taken away is sad. I will never see the Kentucky Derby as a festive wonderful event. We need to respect these creatures. Judgement day will come for us.

How Loooooow Can You Goooooo

I've seen this stuff from ABR before and it always pisses me off so I thought I'd share just how low some can go.....

There's a few FOB's that are obsessed with craigslist. If a cheaper of free horse is put on there they email and "warn" them about the evils of slaughter and how sneaky kill buyers are waiting on these horses.....because God knows that with the prices of horses and prices of fuel, all the kill buyers are cruising craigslist and scouring the country side putting on a big act to take poor little "Buttercup" from his loving owners straight to the killers.....he's worth so much damn money ya know....And there certainly aren't enough unwanted horses floating around by the hundreds in the auction houses . Geesh....LOL.

Anyway....every now and then the FOB's receive an email back that just makes me smile. I'm going to share this one from a gal who put a free horse on craigslist......

"Excuse me, but who are you to tell me what to do with my horse I paid money for? You need to keep your nose in your own business. I have three other mares that I rescued from the blm who are just fine. She will be going only to an approved home where she will be loved. Please, for future reference, keep out of peoples business from now on. I am not your charity case to try and save, and niether is my mare".

Gotta love it........but here is where the lowness comes in......instead of leaving this person alone, they have decided that this person should not own a horse. Here is what their trying to pull off.....

"I wonder if this lady is interested in providing her last name or the horse's brand number so that I can call Jason at 3-Strikes and he can get a hold of Sally in D.C. with the BLM and have the lady blacklisted from adopting any MORE BLM Mustangs from the BLM. She said this is not the only Mustang that she has, and I dont feel that she really needs to have any more. Clearly stating she's not working with the horse, so off the ships it to someone else who will either slaughter it or send it on down the line from home to home."

"You could try emailing her and ask her for the BLM ID. She is likely to tell you the same thing but worth a try. I am hoping my email scared her a lttle. I just found another 2 BLM mustangs for sale near me for $100 each and I emailed that person also."

"you could try approaching her as a potential adopter and ask for the info"

"I think I'll email her. Since you can find out a lot about the horse's history by their brand, it would make sense that I'd want to know as much of the history as possible if I were a potential adopter. I wish that horse was closer because I'd go get it and go pay a visit to Jason. I hate it when people go adopt a horse from the BLM and then just become irresponsible about it and pawn it off on someone else."

Nice ain't it

First, what the FOB's are doing is called SPAM and it's ILLEGAL. But the FOB's are on a high pedestal (in their own minds) so it makes it ok......

Yes, this lady has been warned that she is being discussed on an internet forum and these good people have decided to play judge and jury......this kind of stuff makes me want to poke my eyes out.

On a happier note, I did join ICERS forum. They are anti slaughter but have a pretty good grip on reality. I wasn't met with "open" arms......but aside from a few FOB's melting down and coming over to try to run me off they have been very accepting of allowing me my opinions even though they know where I stand on the slaughter issue.

There are so many more woes in the horse world right now that have nothing to do with slaughter. They deal primarily in calling out the bad rescues that are scamming people out of money and warning others.

Oh, and check this out.....a while back the Board Nazi, Alex banned everyone that actively posted in ICERS. Imagine that...LOL. The little man just can't seem to handle reality :) He even banned people that are very active in helping in the rescue community (legitimate rescues that is.....). Ah, what an ego this man has......

Until next time!

Amusing Letter About a Huge Problem

Someone sent me the following in an email....LOL.

Dear Anita Getaclue,

Thank you for your fervent support of the recent laws that were passed in Illinois and the taco state that effectively ended the closely regulated slaughter of horses in the United States. Thank you for pushing the practice past our borders and out of control of the USDA's standards for humane treatment of food animals. We also appreciate your lobbying to pass the American Horse Slaughter Prevention Act currently in Congress, which will end the transport of unwanted horses to foreign slaughterhouses and keep each and every one of them within the borders of our beautiful nation-alive and well!

You'll be pleased to learn that the "alive and well" part is where you come in! A new organization has been created through the cooperative effort of the numerous horse industry organizations and the USDA, called "Save Horses In Trouble-Help End Abandonment & Death," or SH!THEAD for short. In accordance with the guidelines of this new program, and to alleviate the pressure on existing rescue facilities to take in the thousands of unwanted horses, we have decided to place one unwanted horse under the personal care of each and every person that supported banning horse slaughter in the United States.

As you may know, since the slaughter facilities have closed, not only have rescue facilities and shelters been inundated to the point that they have to close their doors to new arrivals, but many horses have also been neglected, starved to death, or abandoned because of the record high hay prices. Therefore, your participation in this program is mandatory.

We understand that it is your feeling that horses are pets, not livestock, and since most people in the United States do not choose to eat them, therefore no one should, and all horses should live out their lives in an idyllic pastoral setting. We also understand that while your relatively large 40' X 40' suburban backyard isn't exactly Yellowstone, it will just have to do. We are certain you will make the necessary adjustments.

Your unwanted horse is of unknown origin, but is roughly 6 years old (although we can't get close enough to him to tell for sure), weighs approximately 1500 pounds and has a mean streak a mile wide, and has been known to randomly bite, strike, or kick, especially at small children, elderly people, and house pets. We have decided to call him "Satan."

While Satan is capable of physical aggression, unfortunately he is not able to be ridden because of his crooked front legs. He is capable, however, of reproducing, as he is a stallion. This is of special import to you, as your neighbors and fellow members of the "Horses Are Humans With Hooves" group will also be provided with horses through our program, some of which might be mares.

For your information, the $20 you donate annually to the Humane Society of the United States can instead buy you approximately two bales of high-quality hay at the current market rate. Assuming that the bales weigh 100 pounds, and you feed 20 pounds to said beast per day, this will be enough to feed him for ten days. You will be happy to know that the lifespan of a horse averages about 25 years, and therefore Satan can bring you approximately 9,125 days of enjoyment. That is, of course, only if you provide him with the best care possible, which we are absolutely certain that you will. To ensure that Satan is receiving proper care, an inspector will visit your home on a weekly basis.

At your request, we can provide you with contact information for veterinarians, farriers, trainers, equine dental practitioners, whisperers, and tranquilizer gun dealers in your area, as well as the necessary contacts you will need for euthanasia and disposal of Satan's earthly vessel when he crosses over. We foresee that Satan's death will be especially traumatic for you, being the enlightened individual that you are, and counselors are already available at 1-900-NO-SENSE. ($3.99 for the first minute, $1.99 for each additional minute).

Unfortunately, there is no government financial assistance for care and maintenance costs of SH!THEAD horses, as all of the funds allocated for such things are dedicated to the Bureau of Land Management's Wild Horse program.

Sincerely,

Gene E. Us

Program Director

Meltdown!

Big flames......CBER meltdown. It's all over the net. I'll let you read all the links, they pretty much say it all, can't think of to much to add besides this doesn't surprise me or a LOT of people.

FHOTD went to the shredder with them (April 7th and 8th)......I certainly don't agree with a lot of her opinions but I'll have to admit I do get a sick twisted kick out of it when she's right because of the level she takes it to.

ICERS is a board I've been watching for quite some time. These people (with the exception of a couple) really DO "Get it". I've toyed with the idea of joining there, even though our views on the actual slaughter issue is different I can't find to much else to bitch about with their practices. I know I wouldn't have to fear the censorship I received from ABR. More power to them for standing up for their opinions.

ABR....No surprise here.....Alex still has his head in the sand. This is what Alex had to say, the board Nazi will probably end up doing his usual banning/deleting/censorship process so you better read quick.....LOL.

21893.16 in reply to 21893.14
stephanie, i may be in a minority here, but i do not believe the horses went to slaughter. if it is true it would be sad on many levels, but personally i do not believe it to be so. cheers, alex

Alex Alex Alex, do you NOT realize if there is even a hint of truth to this how much money, thousands upon thousands of dollars, have been funneled through your board in the name of Barbaro? Oh please don't forget that chapter in your book! LMAO. I mean really......if it had been like the Fair Dinkum deal, well I'll admit, that snuck up on a lot of people......but people have been screaming for years giving warnings about CBER, yet he is always there sticking up for them.

If I was him I would be so ashamed I'd have to threaten to shut the board down yet once again so the groupies will come out and pump my ego back up :)

Ooooooops, I was right!
21893.20 in reply to 21893.18
i don't disagree, but i am not sure calling me out on my choice of words is necessary. it would likely be the end of this board and devastating to me personally, but not as bad as it would be for the horses slaughtered. i just don't think that because of what has been posted it makes it true. cheers, alex

Devastating to you personally because you would be "sad" for the horses? Devastating to you personally because you helped rob people of thousands of dollars? Or devastating to you personally because book sales just went down?

Clueless Alex really SHOULD have some notiriety for his fantastic awesome skills! I mean who else could think of a diversionary tactic like that! Take the heat off himself for being in bed with CBER for so long by his yet again "I'm gonna shut the board down!" threat. Is it true that little men need big egos to compensate for their little.....um....oh well.....never mind :)

Really, I wonder where HIS accountability lies. This whole idea of funneling money on a public Internet forum thing really creeps me out anyway......But then again that whole board creeps me out.....LOL!

OMG my head is spinning from all the excitement today. I think I'll top the night off with a nice cup of coffee with a Kahlua kicker and head to bed :)

Long Time No Chat

Sorry for the disappearing act.....I really didn't mean to take this long of a break. The days turned into weeks......

Looks like it's pretty much the same old shit, different day out there. All of the articles and news peaces on starving and abandoned horses are pretty depressing. Hay and grain prices suck. Fuel prices blow.

I wasn't shocked today when I logged onto ABR and found another rescue has went down and taken the FOB's money with them. When will they ever learn. And how about their fearless leader Alex? FOB's are screaming for accountability and their he sits, quiet as a church mouse. The silence is louder than anything he could say at this point.

I also noticed another one of his favorite rescues he stands ferociously behind, CBER, has had another round of difficulties and no accountability. When questions were brought up, the Board Nazi quickly closed the thread.

I noticed that someone mentioned Mustang Hearts in the comments section. I actually did a blog on them a while back. Not much has changed, their still begging for every flake of hay on ABR. Now she's loosing her place, won't answer any questions but expects people to donate. Oh, and I also learned she can tame wild horses in a week .....what will be next, she's already a psychic too....

I'll never understand why the Board Nazi allows this kind of stuff.....I guess it goes to prove some people don't care what kind of light is shed on them.....as long as there IS light on them.

Oh and LOL.....this thread about Barbaro is just entertaining....are these people 13 years old?